Joel Wideman

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  Explain monogamy to me

  by joelbear in

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  my preferred social construct would be a group of 5 to 10 men sharing space, chores, well everything.. if i were heterosexual i think i would prefer the same situation, 2 or 3 families living together and sharing all.. actually i believe this should be a worldwide goal, total community in every sense of the word.. i see no advantage served by social and sexual diads.. please explain it to me.

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  Monogamy is like having a favorite shirt. It's familiar and comfortable, if a bit out of fashion.
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  Latest news about Pro-JW group on Myspace

  by DevonMcBride in

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  the elders and the governing body are cracking down on jw myspace groups.

  here is the latest from the owner of one that i'm subbed to.. im sorry to all who just recently joined myspace but im deleting my account and if ne one wants to keep the group goin thats up to them... i dont know whats goin to happen if i delete my mysapce i dont know if the group will automatically get deleted.... .

  now for the reason im leaving is that my elders are saying that the po's met last week and the major issue with society now is the internet and myspace came up as one of the topics and for the elders to talk about this with the young adults and kids in the hall... the pretty much told us if u dont take urself off we will have to have a meeting with u about it... this is advice from not us the elders but from the governing body... sooo im not one to go agaisnt my elders even though i dont want to leave becasue i met some wonderful people and im soo greatful for that... if ne one wants to keep in touch with me here is my phone number... .

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  I think that's the idea, RunningMan. Then they can say "The internet is full of worldly people, so you must avoid it."
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  Elders wives, are they more submissive?

  by JH in

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  i know an elder (hermann) who is so fat and out of shape that his wife has to mow the lawn and shovel the entrance.

  she also works hard inside to make his food and keep everything clean.

  he is 73 and she is 70.. i wonder what verse he uses to make her do so much?

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  Without knowing more of the details, such as what either of them say about the arrangement, I don't know that this is an example of a submissive wife. She may enjoy staying active in her golden years and taking care of her husband, knowing now that she's survived cancer she's bound to outlive him.
  Dominant and submissive people are naturally drawn to each other. I've known non-JW couples who were examples of this, and to a greater degree than any JW couple. I've also known JW couples who only paid lip service to the concept.
  Based on my experience, hardly. But that doesn't preclude the possibility.
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  Elders wives, are they more submissive?

  by JH in

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  i know an elder (hermann) who is so fat and out of shape that his wife has to mow the lawn and shovel the entrance.

  she also works hard inside to make his food and keep everything clean.

  he is 73 and she is 70.. i wonder what verse he uses to make her do so much?

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  I do not believe in suffering fools gladly, so I'll add my voice to this thread. JH, you're a tool and your prejudice is obvious. Your attempted silencing - even to the point of calling in a mod - someone for disagreeing with you is disgusting. Such tactics are used by the WTS.
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  Hello all!

  by exJW_2004 in

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  i'm new to these boards.

  i'll introduce myself.. i was raised a jw, baptized at 13, pioneer at 15, married at 18, divorced at 21, disfellowshipped and pregnant at 22, and here i am.

  i gave birth to a beautiful baby boy about five months ago, and i've never been happier, but that has required a lot of sacrifice and hurt.

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  Welcome! Children are a mixed blessing, and it helps to have a support network like this for when it's a little harder.
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  JW is a contestant on ATM

  by desbah in

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  this should be interesting... jayla, the 20-year-old delivery driver from tucson, arizona, who is a "horrible example of what a jehovah's witness is supposed to be.

  i'm a fornicator, i'm a smoker, i curse like a sailor, and i don't go to church.

  check it out on http://www.upn.com.

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  She's a future xjw.
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  Arranged marriages - What do you think??

  by Tez in

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  personally i don't condemn this outright, but feel the couple should have input if it is to succeed.

  any thoughts anyone??

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  I don't remember any congregation I ever went to had a geek. Ummm... nevermind.
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  I have alot of questions

  by MrsBee in

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  my husband is a d'fed jw and i think he is gonna try and make his way back there .

  they dont believe in fate?

  (long story short, we were high school sweethearts, didnt see each other since xmas 1993 even though we lived in the same city then he ran into my mother xmas 2003, while i lived in charlotte and he was here in maryland, i moved back to maryland 3 weeks later and we were married 7 months after that- i believe in fate, i dont think its far fetched to believe that god has a plan for everyone).

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  Welcome, MrsBee.
  "Why do they think that people who get excited in church, raise their hands up, sing loud and are happy are not genuine, he always says that they are showing off"
  Imagine, if you will, that you believe that you - and you alone - are granted God's love. How do you reconcile this with the obvious enthusiasm demonstrated by others who claim the same thing, especially when you yourself don't feel so moved?
  It's the lie I told myself for years, too.
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  More news: WatchTower take legal action against site that quotes their Quot

  by Elsewhere in

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  http://www.profindsearch.com/news/2005/09/21/pfs1203.htm .

  watchtower take legal action against site that quotes their quotes!.

  the watchtower bible and tract society of pennsylvania have initiated legal proceedings against [quotes], who has been displaying "quotes" from the jehovahs witnesses publication on his website.

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  Their case is pretty much dead in the water. Their argument against the fair use defense describes an example of fair use. The most "embarrassing" material, IMO, is stuff that is no longer under copyright anyway.
  I expect the EULA to be found to be non-binding, since it relies on a legal definition of "Jehovah's Witness" that doesn't contradict their own policy of handing out the material under the EULA to all and sundry.
  The trademark is the only thing with any real merit, and they are suing the wrong person. Strike three, you're out!
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  WELCOME GTJ !!!!

  by OldSoul in

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  everyone, please join in welcoming gtj to the fray!.

  it is okay to be yourself, no one here bites.

  and there are others who probably would if you asked nicely.. oldsoul

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  Joel Wideman

  Welcome, GTJ. :)